Season 2 Episodes

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Conversation 9 | Crafting Your Story with Tiffany

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It’s the last episode of the season! We had the pleasure of sitting down with Tiffany Jones, biracial woman and lawyer. Tiffany’s own story starts with her reading list for biracial people and moves from politics into law. Additionally, we chat about being the butt of the joke, acting “white”, friendships to dating, and sage advice for her 12 year old self.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 9 | Crafting Your Story with Tiffany

Episode 8 | Finding Friends

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Friendships can be overlooked in the relationship hierarchy, but they are crucial to our development. So how do multiracial people navigate friendships? Tune in for both Katie’s personal take on friendships and some research about how race plays into forming these types of relationships. 

Links We Love

Multiracial in America - Pew’s research on social connections for multiracial people.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 8 | Finding Friends

Conversation 8 | Newlywed with Sarah and Les

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It’s our last episode focused on romantic relationships! We talk with Sarah and Les, a newlywed, interracial couple, about their recent marriage, how they got to where they are today, and that creeping imposter syndrome. Tune in for all that, plus a cameo from their puppy, Koda.

Conversation 8 | Newlywed with Sarah and Les

Conversation 7 | 100% Whole with Ashleigh Reddy

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Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Ashleigh Reddy. A proud Black and Indian woman, Ashleigh gets real about her experiences dating as a biracial woman and her friendships in both the Black and South Asian communities. We learn that no matter who you choose to spend time with, you are always 100% whole and should be treated as such. Plus, we talk about Kamala Harris and her historic achievement as the first Black and Indian woman on a major party presidential ticket. 

Links We Like:

Ashleigh is a fabulous photographer. Check out her work

Register to vote. Like now. 

Hasan Minhaj takes on anti-Blackness in the Asian community. 

Zoe Saldana on portraying Nina Simone.

Music:

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Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 7 | 100% Whole with Ashleigh Reddy

Conversation 6 | Sonia Smith-Kang of Mixed Up Clothing

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We spoke with Sonia Smith-Kang, founder and owner of Mixed Up Clothing, a fashion company highlighting multiracial families and experiences. An African American and Mexican woman, Sonia shares her candid advice about navigating her 15 year marriage to her Korean husband, including the good and the complex. We also dive into her company, Mixed Up Clothing, and how she’s been able to leverage fashion to empower the multiracial community and conversations with family and friends during this racial reckoning. Tune in for some words of wisdom and affirmations that all multiracial people need to hear. 

Check out Mixed Up Clothing (they’re making masks too!)


Words of wisdom from Sonia

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 6 | Sonia Smith-Kang of Mixed Up Clothing

Episode 7 | Affairs of a Biracial Heart 

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We get into the true emotional heart of romantic relationships. What’s it like to date someone outside of your race? We cover both interracial dating and dating as a biracial person in this episode. Listen in to discover our couple inspirations, the pressure interracial couples can feel, and the complexities of dating as biracial. 

Links We Love:

We agree that “For Interracial Couples, Advocacy is a Love Language.”

Key & Peele explain why dating as biracial is complicated.
Black women share their opinion on interracial dating.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 7 | Affairs of a Biracial Heart

Episode 6 | A History of Interracial Relationships

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The relationship we’ve all been waiting for - dating! Well, sort of. We’re setting the stage for one of the most tangled relationships, dating, by covering a history of interracial relationships and marriage. Join Katie as she goes back to the 1600s to trace the path of interracial unions from Pocahontas up to present day with Insecure’s Asian Bae. 

Sources:

Interracial Marriage in “Post-Racial” America by Jessica Vinas-Nelson

Court Cases:

Perez v. Sharp (1947); Loving v. Virginia (1967)

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 6 | A History of Interracial Relationships

Conversation 5 | Examining Allyship with Curtis

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Last episode we talked about how multiracial people can show up as allies to the Black community. This episode we ask a Black man directly. Join us for an examination of allyship with Curtis about how he wants others to show up for his community.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 5 | Examining Allyship 

Episode 5 | How To Be an Ally 

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Everyone has a role to play right now in advancing racial justice and ending police brutality. Listen to this episode to learn how to show up as allies for the Black community.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 5 | How To Be an Ally 

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We’re taking a much needed self-care break with Roxy of Coastal Curl. She’s Black and Persian (aka “blersian”) and we talk about her upbringing in SoCal, self care during the pandemic, and her haircare business, Coastal Curl, that she’s had to pivot recently. Tune in to get the download on self-care from a Blersian!

Music:

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Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 4 | Take Care of Yourself!

Episode 4 | Searching for Ancestors 

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This week, Katie’s searching for her ancestors. Inspired by a recent project, she discusses how tenuous ties between people who have come before us can feel closer than ever. Tune in for a discussion on how the past informs the future, genealogy, and a crash course in Cabo Verdian history. 

Ancestry for Black People Exists!

I had a blast searching newspaper archives from the New England area, in particular Falmouth.
These whaling records fascinated me.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 4 | Searching for Ancestors

Bonus Conversation | Mom of the Pod!

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Katie talks with her mom about parenting. Tune in for a discussion on Cape Verdean identity and what it was really like raising Katie. Perfect timing for when we all want some parental assurance during these uncertain times.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Bonus Conversation | Mom of the Pod!

Conversation 3 | The Joys and Challenges of Parenting with Marc Perry

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Katie brings in reinforcements for this week’s episode. She talks with friend and parent of multiracial kids, Marc Perry. Tune in to hear a conversation about how identity affects children’s upbringing, kids asking the darndest questions, and our hope for parents confronting what can be a joyous and intimidating experience.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 3 | The Joys & Challenges of Parenting

Episode 3 | What Would Parents Do

We’re entering unchartered territories today - parenting. Katie is no parent, but she knows that this topic cannot be ignored when the season is dedicated to relationships. This episode is all about framing the experience of raising multiracial children in anticipation of our super parent guests over the next few weeks. Have questions about raising a multiracial child? We aim to demystify the topic. 


Lara Doston Renta’s reflection on raising a biracial child in the Atlantic.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 3 | What Would Parents Do

Conversation 2 | Let’s Get Scientific! A Conversation with Dr. Sarah Gaither

We’re getting deep into the science behind multiracial people in today’s episode. Dr. Sarah Gaither, Assistant Professor of Social & Developmental Psychology at Duke, joins us to talk about how multiracial people differ in social interactions and some of her exciting research. Tune in to hear about the advantages of being multiracial that you can brag about to your friends, as well as the cool, new acronym you can throw around: BIRGing.

Music:

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Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 2 | Let’s Get Scientific!

Episode 2 | Passing

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Have you ever passed before? This week’s episode dives deep into passing, including its history, literary studies, and more public manifestations. Also on our mind - Megxit, Apple+ TV’s new show Central Park, and the MixedRaceFaces project. 

Read more about how Asian Americans distrust biracial Asians.

The MixedRaceFaces Project is worth many hours of perusing.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 2 | Passing

Conversation 1 | Why Don’t I Match? A Conversation with Dr. Michele Foss Snowden

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In today’s episode, Katie talks with Dr. Michele Foss Snowden, a professed TV lover and Professor of Communications. Tune in for how her love of TV helped her understand her identity, recommendations for her favorite TV shows featuring the multiracial experience, and a discussion on how feeling seen is so critical to confidence.

Follow Dr. Foss Snowden on Instagram and catch her podcast here!

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Conversation 1 | Why Don’t I Match

Episode 1 | Mixed Race Media

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It’s the launch of season 2! This season we’re talking everything relationships - and we mean everything. This first episode is all about the relationship multiracial people have with the media. We cover Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign, Meghan Markle, and how the tragic mulatto trope continues to pervade TV.

Sources:

The Washington Post covers “identity” politics Kamala Harris style.

National Geographic wants to talk about race.

Mixed Up, the weekly series done by the UK Metro.

Music:

Blank and Kytt - RSPN

Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS)

Episode 1 | Mixed Race Media